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Date posted - October 1, 2013

We’re shutting down the government in order to require individuals to buy health insurance. Yet, few people will be able to buy insurance because few Health Exchanges are ready to enroll employers or individual employees; show an employer’s affordable coverage or what health plan options are available; verify our income or eligibility; or, identify if we qualify for a subsidy or how much we actually have to pay. With 20,000 pages of regulations, 61 pages of instructions, a 15 page application and 1,000 questions, we may not notice that these health plans have $3,000 to $5,000 deductibles; and, $50 co-pays with a much longer wait time to get an intake exam by a Physician’s Assistant; and, $50 co-pays with long lines to have lab tests. Politicians want to give tens of millions of people affordable health insurance, but they have not increased the number of medical providers or service facilities. In fact, this law regulates doctors, cuts funds for facilities and taxes medical devices. Why not delay implementation?

Michael McCarthy

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44 Responses to “Obamacare”

  1. Lee Ann says:

    No, the Tea Partiers are shutting down the govt. because they want to get rid of the law called the ACA, which is not a bill, its a law. The Democrats said they would not negotiate over the CR or the debt ceiling, because that is the job of Congress, to pass those two bills. The things that the Tea Partiers do not like are the parts that were put in there to help the conservatives like it more, the individual mandate was originally a Heritage Foundation idea, which the Conservatives wanted in the bill. It was put in, and immediately the Conservatives decided it was unconstitutional and socialist. Six months ago when the Senate and the House had two differing budgets, the Senate began to set up a committee to come to agreement on the budget. And the Republicans refused to join in the committee. Last night, at the last hour, the Republicans asked if we could have a committee to compromise on an agreement.

    The CBO has found that the ACA will save over 700 million dollars in ten years. Sure, there will be things that need to be tweaked and improved. And it would be great if the Conservatives could be in agreement , to help tweak and improve. But instead they want to defund it completely. However, it IS a law, not a bill. It is funded as a law.

    • Aaron says:

      Facts –
      1 – ACA was passed without a single republican vote.
      2 – If ACA were a bill today it would never get close to passing.
      3 – There are plenty of laws (not bills, laws, as you say) that the Obama administration chooses not to enforce because they don’t feel like it- What’s the difference?

      Your favorite “crazy” supporter

      • rainbow says:

        Government should not impose mandated laws on the people, that they themselves will not participate in. They are not better then We the People.
        The President has yet to provide a budget, which our constitution requires on a timely manner. Guess he changed that law too!
        The Government officials, don’t take their jobs serious with our Countries interest first, there is no pay penalty for not doing their job. If we had a bill passed that based pay on our budget being balance and paid for days in service at the capitol- things would change.
        We need to have new laws passed to change government officials pay and benefits. They represent us, but in no way are they better then the American working citizen who pays their wages.
        And last if there was a cap on what a person could spend when running for office, a person could not buy themselves a seat in the US Government. Until we no longer expect Government to provide and direct our daily needs, we will continue on the road of Socialism.

        • Ducky says:

          I’ve seen our representative, Steve King, making a fool of himself on the news. He did the usual of making Iowa look bad, but then he said two things that shocked me (even from his track record). He supports the government shut down and admitted his shocking news on the debt ceiling. And then he said it was Obama who was throwing a tantrum.
          Not only that, but he has to throw more jabs at the president in order to make what he himself believes is not as bad as what the president has been doing. He said that Obama won’t let any vets visit the WWII memorial because of the shut down. MR. KING!!! YOU AND YOUR FACTION are the ones who shut down the WWII memorial. It was congress who shut down any non essential government run facilities.
          Just remember, most of the American citizens support “Obama Care”. The bill passed both congress and the senate. It also was found constitutionally legal from the Judicial Branch. But King and his fellow republican congressmen (not all, but most) are the ones responsible for two million jobs being out of commission throughout the government shut down.

          • Ducky says:

            Here’s a link of the Congressmen (Steve King) and women trying to make themselves look better after they’ve decided to shut down all government facilities followed by more jabs towards the White House.

          • Doug says:

            Ducky, where do you find that “most of the American citizens support “Obama Care””? Maybe you have that number confused with the number of non-citizens?

            Yes the ACA, originally the Service Members Home Ownership Tax Act passed the House 416-0, before it was completely replaced under the same name by the Senate.

            It was rushed before the Senate in a 60-39 vote before the newly elected Senator, Scott Brown (in Ted Kennedy’s old seat) could join the GOP filibuster to kill the bill in Jan of 2010. There were no supporting Republican votes in the Senate.

            The amended bill should have gone back to the House for approval, but in a procedural trick was “deemed” passed by the Senate in what has become one of the largest tax increases in history when Mr Obama signed it into law.

            Now that he has personally legislated somewhere between 17 & 19 changes to the law that he is only authorized to execute, the Branch of the government with the power to control the finances of this country, is holding him accountable. That is their job.

            You can holler the “Sky is Falling” all you want, but for every one of you liberals throwing our money around to “entitled citizens” there’s an equal number of silent citizens that are tired of seeing this country broke and their life savings earning them virtually nothing to live on.

            Only 17% of the government is actually shut down, so I don’t think we are going to drop off that fiscal cliff tomorrow. Remember that little talking point from earlier this year when the sequester was about to kick in? It’s still in effect and I haven’t heard of any suffering. Now that we are up against an additional funding block, your team is pulling out all of the scare tactics again. Like closing memorials. Government workers, actually working, to close off public areas. Rather ironic I think. I wonder if the Border Patrol is now Not getting paid to look the other way. Hmmmmm.

    • Tim says:

      Help me understand a couple things:
      If this so called ACA is such a fantastic ‘LAW’, why are not the politicians and those lawmakers that wrote the ‘LAW’ not required to partake of the same requirements as every other American? What makes them so special, or better yet, why are they so afraid to be included in the law? Why are they exempt?
      If it is true that you can get insured for that ‘low’ rate why would I not be inclined to drop out of my $1000 per month insurance that has the high deductable and go get this savior insurance? Or better yet, drop my insurance altogether, then when I need some b/c of something that happens to me go get coverage, they cannot deny me insurance, so I will just go get it then. Sounds logical to me.
      How can you pass a BUDGET that does not balance every year? (oh wait, when was the last budget passed) It seems to me that if we as a country cannot afford steak, we need to budget for hamburger. +16 TRILLION in debt!! It seems to me THAT is the main issue that your so called ‘TEA PARTIERS’ were elected to fight for. I don’t think it is quite accurate to say it is the so called ‘Tea Partiers’ that shut things down. It was lawmakers in a combined effort to try to be in control, one wants more power than the other. Obama in his defiant attitude that he wll never comprimise has created an air about himself that makes the others even more determined to see that he fails. He is supposed to be the LEADER the one that tries to pull the lawmakers together. He is not doing that. Obama wants the gov’t shut down, why? B/C now he will blame it on those nasty tea partiers and republicans.
      Lastly, Lee Ann, I am not sure where you got your info that the ACA will SAVE the federal gov’t money: ” When estimates are compared on a year-by-year basis, CBO and JCT’s estimate of the net budgetary impact of the ACA’s insurance coverage provisions has changed little since February 2013 and, indeed, has changed little since the legislation was being considered in March 2010. In March 2010, CBO and JCT projected that the provisions of the ACA related to health insurance coverage would cost the federal government $759 billion during fiscal years 2014 through 2019 (which was the last year in the 10-year budget window being used at that time). The newest projections indicate that those provisions will cost $710 billion over that same period.” (

      • Jon says:

        Obama should be defiant in this utter insanity. The law passed and should be implemented and the entire country should not be held hostage because of it. You say that Obama won’t compromise, but basically the Republicans have said that they will not do their job to pass a budget unless they also get to defund the healthcare law, holding that law hostage. That is a non-starter for a discussion because the law is on the books and set to be fully enacted in the next two years, and Republicans know it. But, they’ve done nothing but promote every rumor and fear tactic about the law even though they presumably know how to read the law and what it actually says. Heck, our own Senator Grassley created the amendment that lawmakers will need to obtain insurance through the exchanges and you STILL think that congress isn’t going to be on it. So, you start from a position of I won’t behave like I’m supposed to unless you concede to my demands, and you expect good will and compromise? Then, as though they are “compromising,” they say that they don’t need to take away the law, just delay it, as though that is much better of a starting place. That is still not a position of compromise, it would be capitulating to demands of a hostage-taker. Republicans will only do what their supposed to if their tantrums are rewarded. Now, when you have a small child who throws tantrums, if you give in to every demand they make, you end up with a bad kid with an entitlement complex (ironic) where they know if they just act out they’ll get whatever they want. If you want to get them to behave and act like they’re supposed to, you put them in time out and you don’t give them the candy they demand for NOT doing what they’re supposed to do.

        • Tim says:

          No, Obama should have those lawmakers in his office working on a ‘workable’ solution! He is the CEO, CIC, of this country. He was elected to WORK with lawmakers. He should be having a meeting twice or three times a day with them, whatever it takes. Not this crap saying I will not comprimise. (now that sounds like a little boy in a tantrum) He is not a dictator, or does he think he is? Obama has finally called leaders to his office to try to work something out. Perhaps a little late? If he was CEO of a large company and after the company went off line in production b/c his supervisors could not work together, and as CEO, he did nothing to prevent its shutdown, the stock holders would have his head by now!!! I have heard that do to the shutdown, poor Mr. Obama may have to give up his next ‘multi-million’ dollar trips to southeast asia!! What a joke!
          It really all boils down to this… Washington does not know how to curb its spending! It looks like yet another entitlement program we can’t afford.

    • Free Man says:

      Why does the left always need a boogyman. Remember what TEA in party stands for? Taxed Enough Already.

      I guess one can always expect vitriol and hate when the adults try to take the freebies away while trying to get a handle on our 17 trillion dollar debt. I just feel sorry for the younger generations who will be the ones saddled with all this debt in years to come.

      • Jon says:

        I don’t know…yesterday when an Honor Flight came to see the WWII memorial and found it barricaded, four Representatives and Senators were present. Tom Harkin called the Secretary of the Department of the Interior to complain about the barricading of a monument that people ought to be able to simply walk through and asked that this group be able to do so. Bachman, King, and Grassley all came to complain about how horrible it was that they couldn’t go to the monuments, but they all blamed Democrats for it. Now, I’m sorry, but Republicans are to blame for this as much if not more than Democrats, and it is the height of inanity to see the effects of idiocy and an utter failure to do your job and not take any responsibility for it. Republicans blame Obama for this all the time. Well, guess what, here was an opportunity to say, we’re sorry that our antics and disagreements and inability to do our job led to this, but instead they arrogantly call it a tragedy while admitting no culpability for it. So much for Republicans not needing a scape goat.

        • Free Man says:

          Did the Republicans go out and put up the barricades and yellow tape at the WWII Memorial? It is my understanding that the WWII Memorial is basically wide open and designed to walk through sort of like a park, but someone decided to make a political statement by barricading and taping it off.

          How much did it cost to have the workers go out and close the park with the barricades and security tape? If you ask me Senator Harkin was “Johnny on the Spot” for the purpose of grandstanding and scoring political points.

          • Jon says:

            Right, and I’m sure that King and Bachman were just there out of the goodness of their hearts and not to score some political points. I’m sorry, but if you don’t hold BOTH parties responsible for this disaster, then you are blinded by your partisanship.

          • Ducky says:

            Your republicans are the ones who decided to shut down the government in the first place. The barricades were put up there so no one would get arrested for trespassing on closed government grounds. I’m sure there are barricades and caution tape around EVERY monument, not just the WWII monument. The Lincoln memorial is a giant room with 3 walls, basically the same concept to the open slab of concrete of the WWII memorial. King and Bachman just want to look like the good guys for once for constantly shaming the states that they represent.

    • HappyTimes says:

      I’m sorry Lee Ann,
      You have it so wrong. The Tea Party Patriots stand for:
      1. Jesus Christ as their Personal Lord & Savior.
      2. Adhere to the Constitution of the United States of America and Declaration of Independence.
      3. Fiscal Responsibility
      4. Marriage as God intended, between one man and one woman.
      5. Abortion is MURDER!!

      WE hold these Truths to be self-evident, that all Men are created equal, that they are endowed by their CREATOR with certain unalienable Rights, that amond these are Life, Liberty, and the Pursuit of Happiness.

      They are the most level headed people on the face of this earth.
      In other words COMMON SENSE!

      • Jay says:

        So many contradictions.

        If all men are created equal, why can’t gay men marry? I mean they are equal… Right?! Or, are they just an exemption because they love a different gender than you? Hmmm. If all men are given unalienable rights endowed by our creator, does that mean gay men are the spawn of Satan – are they not approved by God himself? Does God not love the gays, according to the Tea Party? Don’t tell me… “God loves gays, but they shouldn’t marry.” Says who? Marriage is a government institution – you don’t need religion to make it valid in the eyes of the government.

        “Common sense… Is not so common.”

        • HappyTimes says:

          Yes, I believe God Loves everyone. I’m sure that he loves Nidal Malik Hasan, the mass murder at Fort Hood but his only chance of seeing heaven is if he accepts Jesus Christ as his personal Lord and Savior. Will he? When my children were growing up, I Loved them with all my heart, but when they did something wrong, appropriate punishment was given.

          Marriage was given at the beginning of time when God took the rib of the man and made woman to be with him. Marriage has been that way ever since.

          The practice of queers is an abomination to God. I object to the use of “gay” and changing the meaning from happy things to your practice. In other words, you have stolen the meaning of gay, and now what to steal the meaning of marriage.

          But, does God love you? Of course he does and it’s your free will that you need to handle.

          • Ducky says:

            You have a problem with the word “gay” and use the word “queer” instead? You, as a TEA partier who claims to stand for the constitution, should know that your god is not welcomed into the regulation of the government. The government shall not pass any law that heads or promotes religion. No matter what your bible says, every man, woman, and child should be treated equally.
            How can you say you support the pursuit of happiness when you will not allow two people to be happily married? How can you say you adhere to the constitution when you force religion into the politics? You say abortion is murder but you have no problems putting a criminal to death based on what the Bible says.
            The TEA Party is a joke itself seeing that they actually stand against what the constitution declares.

    • Ducky says:

      Do I think that Congress is responsible for the shut down? Of course I do. But I also believe it takes two to tango. But there are quite a few congressmen who are like, “Well, I ain’t going to give in unless I get something out of it.” Sadly, this is true. Even Fox News has been covering that issue. You know if a republican really messed up if Fox has something bad to say about them.
      Yes, the bills were legally passed. But you have to realize that the democrats have actually been negotiating with the republican congressmen. But this small group of radical congressmen want MORE! The democrats have already accepted to spend less money than what RAND PAUL originally asked for last year. I’m not the largest Obama fan, but he is the shiniest of two turds in this toddler brawl.

  2. If your wanting to talk law says:

    Democrats, Republicans & President forgot this–Amendment 28: Congress shall make no law that applies to the citizens of the United States that does not apply equally to the Senators or Representatives, and Congress shall make no law that applies to the Senators or Representatives that does not apply equally to the citizens of the United States. How come THAT law hasn’t been enforced? I love how my premiums DOUBLED, and now I have to change the doctor, my family and I have had for 6 years because of this. So much for cheaper health care, where you get to keep your doctor. Lie after lie after lie, is all this has been.

    • Dave says:

      Uh, the 28th amendment is just proposed – never been ratified. Though I think it would be a good idea.

    • Jon says:

      That amendment is NOT part of the Constitution, but nice try. However, while we’re at it, the Affordable Care Act in fact DOES mandate that Congress and their staff must be put on the insurance exchanges. At issue here was the obligation of an employee to make a contribution to the insurance plan, particularly for staffers. As it stands, the Federal Government’s contribution to health insurance for staffers is around $10,000 per year, something that is factored into the compensation package offered in employment contracts. The question is not whether they get their insurance through the exchanges, but how to handle the compensation…and basically they are opting to continue contributing to the plans even as they seek insurance through the exchanges. Here is a link:

  3. Lee Ann says:

    First, the ACA has not gone into effect yet. So if your insurance has doubled and you cannot go to your favorite doctor, something is wrong, because it hasn’t even gone into effect yet.

    I remember this, when they were arguing about the ACA, the Republicans told the Democrats, “we want an exemption from the ACA”, thinking that the Democrats would have a screaming fit. Instead, they shrugged and said, “okay.” That was one of the things the Republicans tried to use to damage the bill. Actually, the legislators are on a registry. They have a group of companies willing to compete to get their health care, just like a registry. I used to work for Colorado Dept. of Corrections, and the state of Colorado has had a registry for state employees for over 20 years. They give you ten or twenty different insurance companies and you pick what you need and can afford.

    The reason the Republicans wanted the individual mandate (before they were against it) was for the reason that people would not get insurance until they needed it, thus shrinking the pool.

    I am sure there will be glitches and difficulties. They said the same with social security, medicare etc. This isn’t a six month deal, its something that will become standard and improve over time.

    • Aaron says:

      Come on, Lee Ann. The ACA went into affect since the day it was signed.
      There are, however, some pieces waiting to be implemented. Most of these were postponed due to them being a complete train wreck.

      Saying the ACA can’t affect healthcare costs because it isn’t fully implemented yet is like saying a looming hurricane can’t be the reason for the grocery store’s shelves being empty because it hasn’t hit yet.

    • Maggie says:

      Gliches and difficulties …. Give me a break! Social Security and Medicare may be standard but they are far from improved.

      • Jon says:

        Okay, well then since their are glitches and difficulties in Medicare, Medicaid, and Social Security, let’s just end them. That’s the rationale you seem to have. Let everyone fend for themselves, social Darwinism at its finest.

        • Free Man says:

          Check out the unfunded liabilities in the programs you mentioned.

          Social Security Unfunded Liability $15,593,027,536,899.05
          Medicare Unfunded Liability $80,270,274,573,476.83

          Prescription Drug Unfunded Liability $20,176,375,645,140.02

          National Healthcare Unfunded Liability $9,291,616,086,446.05

          Sure, we are in great shape. We are the richest nation on Earth, don’t you know.

    • Free Man says:

      LeeAnn, ObamaRobertscare is not fully in effect yet, but the parts that are in effect now are driving the costs up already.

      The above blog lists the parts mandated now. Did you really think getting rid of pre-existing conditions and letting your babies stay on your policy until they were barely out of diapers at age 26 would not drive the rates up?
      You can also add “Free” preventative medical care and an end to lifetime coverage caps to the list of mandated coverage already driving up the cost of medical insurance.

  4. Free Man says:

    I was told if I like my present plan I can keep it. Not True
    I was told that premiums would go down by $2,500. Not true.

    Because I have not had my plan since 2010 I may not keep it, and will have to switch to a new plan with a lot of mandated expensive coverage I do not want or need. My premiums are already going up as a direct result of ObamaRobertscare, and I am afraid of what Dec. 31st 2014 will bring in the way of higher premiums when I will be forced to get a new government approved plan. I will not sign up for ObamaRobertscare and if I did I am not eligable for any subsidies.

    I have looked at the projected costs of the plans in this new Federal debacle, and they cost more than what you could get before from Blue Cross with higher out of pocket per year. These poor rubes are in for a nasty surprise when they find they must come up with $12,700 to cover the yearly deductable and co-pays when an event occurs. Another thing to consider is that the premiums must be paid in full during the year and that your subsidy will come in the form of a refund (or a tax credit like the EIC) the next year at tax time. I wonder how many of the “Poor” will rush out and spend the subsidy on toys come tax refund time instead of saving it for premiums later.

    A year or two down the road the the Democrats will be heard saying “What have we done”.

    • HappyTimes says:

      I agree with everything that you have said except your last statement. Democrates will never take responsiblity for this. I don’t know how they are going to blame Bush, but they’ll think of somebody. They are never wrong you know.

  5. Tim says:

    A few perhaps little known facts about Obama-care:
    – Obamacare doesn’t officially kick off until January 1st, yet millions of Americans are already at each other’s throats over it.
    Research from the U.S. Census Bureau shows that the country is now more divided than any other time in history since the Civil War era. (Thank YOU Mr Commander and Chief Obama)
    In fact, 20 states including Texas, Georgia and Louisiana have threatened to secede.
    And despite a recent Supreme Court ruling making Obamacare the law of the land, only 24 states are moving forward with a key aspect of Obamacare- the expansion of Medicaid. Of the rest, 21 are opposed and five are deadlocked in debate.
    – Even legendary investor Warren Buffett, a one-time Obamacare supporter, says he would scrap the healthcare bill and start over.
    “What we have now is untenable over time,” said Buffett. “That kind of a cost compared to the rest of the world is really like a tapeworm eating at our economic body.”
    One of the main architects of the bill, Democratic Senator Max Baucus from Montana said Obamacare is heading for a “train wreck.”
    – According to most experts, Obamacare will create no fewer than twenty new taxes or tax hikes on the American people.
    In fact, the Obama administration has already given the IRS an extra $500 million to enforce the rules and regulations of Obamacare.
    – According to Dr. Betsy McCaughey, a constitutional scholar with a Ph.D. from Columbia University, who claims to be one of the only people in the country – including members of Congress – who has actually read the entire 2,572 page law. There is a little known passage in the bill that shows how you could get slapped with a $2,000 fine for not having health insurance – even if you do actually have it. She claims, ordinary Americans will get stuck paying for substance abuse coverage – even if they never touched a drink or drug in their life. According to McCaughey’s research, senior citizens will get hit the hardest. Hip and knee replacements and cataract surgery will be especially hard to get from Medicare in the months ahead thanks to Obamacare, according to McCaughey.
    She warns seniors to get those types of procedures done now before Obamacare goes into effect January 1. (
    But…it doesn’t really make a difference anymore, b/c in my opinion, Obama wants this as his legacy to history, at whatever cost to the American people!

  6. Joe says:

    The Telegraph reports that patients are 45% more likely to die in NHS hospitals than in US ones, according to figures revealing how badly England’s health service compares with those of other countries. This is what we are headed for. Wait until the next time the government shuts down with a federal health care system. Too much government control is never a good thing. How many people want the IRS to have access to your health care records.

    During a Wednesday afternoon press briefing, CNN’s Dana Bash asked Senate Majority Leader Harry Reid about agreeing to fund the National Institutes of Health, as the GOP is proposing to do with no strings attached. Bash mentioned the fact that due to the shutdown, children with cancer are being turned away from clinical trials at the NIH and that the GOP will pass a bill today funding the NIH.

    Reid and Democrats, however, are insisting they will vote against or table the limited CR. President Obama has already threatened a veto.

    After Reid danced around the question, Bash drilled down and Reid’s response was quite revealing and a little chilling:

    BASH: But if you can help one child with cancer, why wouldn’t you do it?

    REID: Why would we want to do that? I have 1100 people at Nellis Air Force Base sitting home. They have problems of their own.

    Reid then attacked Bash’s intelligence, “For someone of your intelligence to suggest such a thing is irresponsible.”

    Apparently, Reid sees healthy furloughed workers sitting comfortably at home as equal to children dying of cancer.

    • D says:

      So much negativity. Ugh.
      If you are brave enough to say so, is anyone benefitting from the new Marketplace?
      I know many with preexisting conditions and other self employed persons who are getting coverage at a much more affordable rate.

      • JCS says:

        Who,and how many is many?

      • Free Man says:

        Any stats and numbers to back up your claims?

        I’m self employed and if I chose an exchange plan my premiums would rise over $1000 a year, with my max out of pocket rising from $5,500 to over $12,7000 per year. As it is the premiums on my private plan have already risen (about $2000 per year) because of the coverage mandated by the ACA that I do not want or need.

        If you take out the higher premiums on my private plan caused by the mandated coverage my premiums would be $3000 or so less than the exchange.

      • Tim says:

        I dare say, where is your proof. Talk is always cheap, but back it up. Who are these ‘many with preexisting conditions and other self employed persons’. The exchange has been “open” less than 48 hours, and not many have even been able to enroll. You must have an inside track over most Americans or your claims don’t hold water

      • D says:

        No stats or numbers, just conversations with people!

        I have personally saved this year thanks to the HSA my company has adopted in anticipation of the ACA changes.

  7. TM says:

    It would be great if KIWA would post were you could access this exchange. Or is that not news.

    Editor’s note:

  8. Tim says:

    Here we go already!!!
    “Less than 24 hours after the Obamacare exchanges opened on October 1 – and indeed before the exchange database even went live – the first reported breach of privacy occurred. An employee of MNsure, Minnesota’s Obamacare exchange, accidentally sent an unencrypted email to the wrong person. The email contained the private information of over two thousand people, and went to a local insurance broker.”

  9. Tom M. says:

    Relax, people. Look at how well the federal government runs the US Post Office. And what shining examples we have in FreddyMac, FannieMae Social Security and Medicaid! How can anyone not think well of our federal government? And why not raise the debt limit? Surely Obama could do away with our national DUI problem with another simple edict raising the blood alcohol limit to 2%. Can’t argue with Obamalogic, now can we?

  10. rdw says:

    The federal government has already become a huge monster we cannot kill and now the liberals want to make the monster even bigger with obama care. I say enough is enough!

  11. Kip Drordy says:

    The financial benefits and savings touted by Obama and his allies on the road to Obamacare’s passage are still failing to live up to their promise.

    In fact, the largest non-profit co-op created under the law is about to fold.

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